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| | Assignment 9 (Due: before september 19,2008, 13:00hrs) | |
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Posts: 644 Join date: 2008-06-07
 | Subject: Assignment 9 (Due: before september 19,2008, 13:00hrs) Mon Sep 08, 2008 3:58 pm | |
| As a student, you were invited by the Dean of the Institute of Computing to attend a seminar-workshop on information systems planning with some of the faculty members. In one of the sessions, a discussion of outsourcing came up. You have been asked to present your evaluation about outsourcing the information systems functions of the school.
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You are to take a position- outsource or in-source and justify your position. |
|  | | Hannah Rhea Hernandez

Posts: 53 Join date: 2008-06-12 Age: 23 Location: atlantis.!!
 | Subject: Outsource or in-House.?? Wed Sep 17, 2008 2:13 pm | |
| Every business, university or organization has to determine whether they should perform a service themselves in-house or outsource that particular service to an outside supply chain partner. In the university, I noticed that we are more in-house based. Why? Because based on my observation, Mr. Cagape is the one who creates and manages the databases in the school but a friend of mine said that the VAQsys software was outsourced (or a FOSS, not really sure..).
Let’s first make the distinction between outsourcing and insourcing because they are often used interchangeably. Outsourcing refers to the subcontracting practice of taking company business functions and contracting them out to a third party. While, insourcing, is the opposite of outsourcing; it means “contracting in”. In insourcing, an entity or a company personnel who can be said to be an expert in the field to be tested is the one who will deliver/create and manage what the university needs (eg. Creating databases or websites). If I am in a situation wherein I am to take a side between insourcing and outsourcing, I would choose to outsource.
Why? True, insourcing have its own advantages like company security and integrity is much more ensured and there will be less irregularities and faster data compilation can be done because the person who is gathering it works in the company, thus he knows how the company functions and what is its exact needs than an person outside the company but I believe that outsourcing offers a lot more.
What does it offer? Outsourcing is.. less costly.
Skilled manpower at affordable prices: Since it deals with searching an outside provider, the university can chose the best from a lot of the qualified candidates outside than in the limited candidates inside the university, thus can select a more suitable and smarter man for the job.
Concentration on core business areas the university can still continue to do its daily tasks without interruptions unlike in insourcing that the chosen personnel may have to stop all his recent activities, like cancelling a class just to finish the project at hand
Increased productivity By employing skilled manpower in larger numbers at lower costs organizations can really increase their productivity.
Popularity of outsourcing has really taken its toll but in the end, I believe that the decision on whether to outsource or insource the needs of the university or any other organization depends on what is required and what is needed to be done.

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|  | | Karren D. Adarna

Posts: 37 Join date: 2008-06-11 Age: 23 Location: - - -dAvaO- - -
 | Subject: OUTSOURCING Wed Sep 17, 2008 2:39 pm | |
| In my own opinion, my choice would be, it depends on the situation of the school if what would be the best option for them. I mean, there are cases that outsourcing is a good thing to do. However, in-sourcing could also be a better choice if the school holds a number of skilled individual who can do programs better than what they can get outside. But I will try to discuss each methodology anyways.
Outsourcing is getting resources outside the company/organization or outside the country that the organization is based on. When we talk of businesses outside world, outsourcing is very prominent. Almost every company adopts this system. The reason is simple, it is said to be the new concept in the business world that develops complex systems, elevates the economic growth, increases the competitiveness and enhances performance of the organization. Outsourcing is a great opportunity especially for the individuals who are lucky to have the job and it’s more advantageous for the company who is doing this kind of strategy. However, school is another story to talk about specially if we will talk about my very own school. Outsourcing could be of help in a way that the school can get programs outside that cannot be found or made inside the school. New ideas, strategies and implementations one cannot get we only rely on in-source.
On the other hand, in-sourcing is not at all a bad idea specially I, what I’ve mentioned above, the school had a bunch of skilled programmers who can actually do the job better that anyone outside. If we will just limit our topic on the enrollment system, in-sourcing for me is the right thing to do. The reasons are first; the person who will design the system is just inside so he/she knows better ideas on what to do. He’s familiar with the flow, he can figure out the best thing to do. Second, the school can lessen the cost if it will hire person inside, this is very important especially in the case of my school that the fund is very poor. Third, person inside can always do better, they can get ideas outside, and they can develop what they have. And lastly, the school can make sure that the information is safe and protected.
From my ideas above, my final answer is this: If our only concern is the school, I think I will suggest in-source. But when we talk of big business, outsource will really take its place.
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|  | | angel mae brua

Posts: 36 Join date: 2008-06-13 Age: 23 Location: davao city..
 | Subject: ...insource or outsource... Thu Sep 18, 2008 3:10 pm | |
| To make life more easier, universities all over uses systems for the high quality performance, effectiveness, less effort and time affordable for doing their jobs. Relatively, they do have their freedom to choose between insourcing or outsourcing. So whats the difference between the two. From the word "in", insourcing means the systems or application they're using all throughout the university is done inside the campus, or the person involved in it is part of the university he/she is working. Outsourcing on the other hand is contradict to the mentioned above. Outsourcing means that the systems is made outside by the different person. Or the resources is outside.
If I will be given the chance to advice or to take some comments on which of the two I prefer for the university to use, I will pick insourcing. There are lots of advantage if the system is made by the people inside the university he/she is working. But more likely, there are still advantages when outsourcing takes place. So the reasons why I rather choose insourcing than outsourcing? First, for me its more less costly than outsource. Looking for other resources for doing the systems inside the university can expense more than giving the idea to the programmers inside. Next, its less hustle. When the university wants to have outsourcing, they will look for the person/people to do the systems. It's a time consuming and more expensive routine. Rather than searching for an unknown well-being programmers, why not talked to the best programmers inside the university. Next, the system can be easily developed. Since the programmers is located inside, it is easily for that programmer to look for a new resource for the systems he/she made. He/she can observed what the university's needs. And other factors, he/she can suggest new things for the best of the systems he/she made. Important advantage is the security. The university's pride and other confidential issues are at risk if the university chooses outsource. If the university deals insource, the loyalty is a basis. Big universities and well-known universities must not take that risk. Maybe, just maybe, freak programmers might hacked the university's systems and drown all the data. But it was just a wide imagination. Finally, the university is giving chances to the programmers inside their institution and at the same time they're giving the programmers the chance to improved themselves.
Like what Karren said, outsourcing takes place to those big companies for the improvement of their institution. But in our case, we do have the best programmers in town. And why take the risks, why look for other of we already have the best. |
|  | | SherylCaguimbaga
Posts: 31 Join date: 2008-06-13 Age: 22
 | Subject: Outsourcing vs. Insourcing Thu Sep 18, 2008 10:46 pm | |
| For us to determine what to choose between outsourcing and insourcing, we need to differentiate the advantages and disadvantages including the risks of the two. Some of the organizations based their selection on what their consultant recommends, others, made their decision based on the various factors that influenced their thinking.
If I were to choose, I will go for outsourcing. I want my school outsource its Information Systems for the reasons that outsourcing has more advantages than insourcing and I think it would really help the school in achieving its goals. And as I observed, the school has less number of experts.
Many organizations choose to outsource because they do believe that outside specialists can provide them the superior processes and management methods to make them globally competitive which is also one of the goals of the school. Through outsourcing, the school’s Information Systems will improve and we can be one of those efficient, innovative and responsive organizations. With regards of the risks, organizations including the school should be careful in choosing an outsourcing partner and we should always remember, to succeed, we need to take risks. Success is not a destiny; it’s a matter of choice. Overall, outsourcing offers lot of great benefits.
Whether it is outsourcing, insourcing or the both of them, I would suggest that if an organization is confuse on what to choose, an external consultant could help to determine what kind of business strategy does it needs. It is a fact that sometimes, we need an expert. We can’t deny that. |
|  | | jaymar melecio

Posts: 29 Join date: 2008-06-14
 | Subject: ass9 Fri Sep 19, 2008 7:00 am | |
| Resources would be the biggest factor that can effect the decision whether to choose outsourcing or in-housing of information system. The company would see to it that they have sufficient funds for their forwarded action.
The decision is a case-to-case basis. As a decision maker, I must have the list of all the information, advantages and disadvantages between the two proceedings.
Below are the advantages and disadvantages of outsourcing and in-housing of Information System:
Outsourcing
Advantages: • Help develop your internal staff. ->through outsourcing it can be used to bring in new ideas and to train internal staff. • Increased productivity->service guaranteed Disadvantage: • More expensive
In-sourcing
Advantage: • Less expensive • University’s security • Easy access to the manpower
In my own opinion, I’d rather to choose in-sourcing/in-housing. Since our university is a government owned there is no enough fund can sustain the resources if we are going to outsource. And in case of trouble shooting we have an easy access to the persons engaged in making our information system.
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|  | | Melgar John Gascal

Posts: 32 Join date: 2008-06-12 Age: 23
 | Subject: Re: Assignment 9 (Due: before september 19,2008, 13:00hrs) Fri Sep 19, 2008 7:33 am | |
| According to Websters Universal Dictionary outsourcing is a company or person that provides information to find a supplier or service, to identify a source. IT refers to how things are done rather than what is done Another definition is that is it a process in which a company delegates some of its in-house operations to a third party. In contrast, in-sourcing is a business practice in which work that otherwise have been contracted out is performed in-house. IT often involves bringing in specialists/experts to fill temporary needs on site.
If given a chance to evaluate the information systems functions of the school, I would prefer the in-sourcing method or process. Why? First reason is to consider the information's confidentiality. Choosing personnel within a company can assure the company's operations and process kept secret because nowadays, its very hard to find trustworthy personnel. Second, with regard to expertise, we know that there are lots of skilled IT professionals who are working in this institutions, so why we need to get people not working within the company wherein we already have people who can make or perform that particular job.
In my own perspective, I'd rather choose in-sourcing than outsourcing since it is a good strategy when it comes with keeping some information confidentiality and it can help you feel at ease in trusting your own work. |
|  | | CherryannMontejo

Posts: 32 Join date: 2008-06-13
 | Subject: outsource or in-source Fri Sep 19, 2008 8:13 am | |
| When we are referring to big businesses, outsourcing is more illustrious. It is because it improves the quality through contracting out the service with a new service level agreement. They have an access to operational best practice that would be too difficult or time consuming to develop in-house. When big companies outsource their information systems they will have an access to a larger talent pool and a sustainable source of skills. Outsourcing is subcontracting a process. It involves the transfer of the management or day-to-day execution of an entire business function to an external service provider.
But, outsourcing the information systems function is one of the biggest possible decisions to be made by a school, especially USeP. When we outsource, it also means that we are withdrawing the business function involving the transfer of people and the sale of resources to a provider because we are hiring somebody else to do all or part of the work instead of the person or a company originally hired.
The main business criticism of outsourcing is that it fails to realize the value of the business that the outsourcer promised the client. Because we are a school and we are keeping important records of the students, it is better when we will just keep our Information system in-house. When we in-source we can maintain the control of critical production or competencies. There is no need for outsourcing the information system because USeP has staff and lots, I think, of human resources that can be considered as an expert in the field of creating information system and things like making databases. We have staffs that are brilliant enough to provide the needs of the school. We can always develop the information system function by improving the ideas we can acquire outside the organization. Although outsourcing offers a lot more, the school can minimize the cost if they will hire people inside the organization and we can make sure that our own concept and design are out of harm's way and protected.
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|  | | maryrossinidiamante

Posts: 30 Join date: 2008-06-14 Age: 22 Location: digos city, davao city
 | Subject: Assignment 9: Outsource?Or insource? Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:04 am | |
| What are the possible gains and benefits if we are to take the information systems functions of the school if outsource?
Are these benefits better than having the information system be insource?
Prior to the subject matter, I think it is best to first define what do outsourcing and insourcing really imply. And why such measures are being considered.
Based on Wikipedia, outsourcing involves the transfer of the management execution of an entire business function to an external service provider. It is often made in the interest of lowering firm or making better use of time and energy costs, redirecting or conserving energy directed at the competencies of a particular business, or to make more efficient use of land, labor, capital, (information) technology and resources.
Insourcing is the opposite of outsourcing. It means contracting in and is often defined as the delegation of operations or jobs from production within a business to an internal entity that specializes in that operation. It is often made to maintain control of critical production or competencies.
As defined, we may conclude that outsourcing or insourcing is about management of some or the entire business operations.
I think it would be best that the school’s information system be outsource for it would bring greater advantages. Making deals with other businesses the school can create connections and allies. Through outsourcing, the school can have an access to a wider span of knowledge and experiences and intellectual property from them; access to operational best practice that would be too difficult or time consuming to develop in-house; and can access to a larger talent pool and a sustainable source of skills. It can save and would take less time, energy and cost.
It can’t be denied that outsourcing can be more advantageous than insourcing. Though insourcing can also be good for local talents and capabilities are being utilized and informations would be safer and secured having a faculty or a member handling it.
In the end, I think it’s up to the client’s abilities and resources to determine what action should be done best.
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|  | | kate_mariel_dizon

Posts: 43 Join date: 2008-06-13 Age: 20
 | Subject: assignment 9 Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:59 am | |
| Ok, so at frst i was 50-50 about this topic. However, when i checked online for other people's views and opinions, i was able to decide on OUTSOURCING.
Why outsourcing? First of all, vs. insourcing, outsourcing is cheaper. With the current state of the school(no offense), i doubt that the administration is willing to spend extra money in improving the info system of the school so outsourcing would be the way to go. Why do i say that outsourcing is cheaper? From what i understand, in insourcing, the organizztion itself will have to provide all the resources needed for the project. Whereas in outsourcing, the people you hire can work for a cheaper cost with the same quality. Now, while insourcing boosts the morale of inhouse talents, it can be more expansive in the long run.
Secondly, outsourcing gives the school more time to focus on what it does best - educating the students. If the administration hires someone from the outside to develop our IS, then their attention would not be divided and would be solely dedicated to its main function as a learnng institution.
Finally, accordingg to what i have gathered from other people's opinions, outsourcing creates a competitive environment where different institions would have to compete for the project. I see this is advantageous because as more and more are competing, the cost would become cheaper. I also see this as an opportunity to broaden our horizon by learning from the work of people outsede the school's control. I'm not saying that the school's inhouse talents are not good enough but outsourcing could possibly give us a newer perspective on the project.
Outsourcing saves the school from investing in other resources for the project and instead allows the institution to concentrate on its primal function. :-) |
|  | | john david de peralta

Posts: 23 Join date: 2008-06-13 Age: 22
 | Subject: Re: Assignment 9 (Due: before september 19,2008, 13:00hrs) Fri Sep 19, 2008 12:15 pm | |
| as for the situation, i, personally will have to suggest to outsource. but before everything else, if i am really in the zone, this will be my reflection.
first, i would have to determine what services the school is handling inside the perimeters with its own sources inside. then i would site some facts where the school is in need of outsourcing. there are situations inside the school that can be handled by its own capability in manpower and so to say equipments. but as for UsEP's situation, i would really insist in suggesting to OUTSOURCE services for the school.
why? even though UsEP has its own human resource, it is still not enough in making up the plans of the school(as for me). maybe its not with the employees, somehow i need to site the administration. its been long time since UsEP has been employing effective professors, employees, etc. but have they use them in full potential? for me? i guess not. they would still need to believe people from outside the school whom they think can provide better solution. well in that case, UsEP is really looking out for an OUTSOURCE service. even if UsEP could handle service of its own, as far as i can see, it takes time before it is being done. i don't know why. its ridiculous. some time it still needs to be in the situation of "oh, this is not good, lets make a solution for this." just like the sheryl sarate case. did they think of the worst thing that could happen inside the school? they made a move after the tragedy. before everything is done a plan should be made along with the solutions for possibilities that could happen. so who is to be blamed?
so why outsourcing? well, the haste in operation will be rest assured to fast. why? it's simply because it is the nature of their service. can outsourced personnel give enough reason to make the services delayed? another is, the people who will operate has this level of expertise that is according to what the school is needing. and the quality of service is being satisfied. and if there is to be blamed, there is enough evidence to blame the service personnel.
also in outsourcing, we have several choices of the services we need. we are not limited.
since it has been a tradition of UsEP to outsource, why not continue until UsEP is able to handle excellent self service inside. and besides, no more "trial-an-error" inside UsEP's operation.
its always best to rationalize every step being made. so this is how i rationalize my stand in outsourcing.  |
|  | | Jalil O. Paniambaan

Posts: 30 Join date: 2008-06-12
 | Subject: Re: Assignment 9 (Due: before september 19,2008, 13:00hrs) Fri Sep 19, 2008 12:32 pm | |
| There are advantages of outsourcing the Information system of an Institution as well as In-sourcing it. But before we decide on whether to use either of both options, we first must look at the capabilities of the Institution, especially in our school. Some may say that outsourcing our Information System is better that in-sourcing it. But for me, I would choose in-sourcing based on the current position of our Institution.
If I were to take a position on whether to choose between outsourcing and in-sourcing the information system of the school, I would rather choose in-house or in-sourcing.
Outsourcing maybe advantageous in some areas, but surrendering or giving the total control on the Information System of our school to other third party company can affect the security and the integrity of the IS involved. And why do we need to outsource our own Information systems when we have competent and skillful workers that can manage the said system? Also, when problem arises, it can be easily managed and controlled.
But it doesn't mean that we are only limited on in-sourcing alone. We can also make use of both options to improve the quality of our Information System as well as its success. By using both outsourcing and in-sourcing, our school can gain the advantages of both options. |
|  | | Simon Lusan

Posts: 21 Join date: 2008-06-15
 | Subject: Re: Assignment 9 (Due: before september 19,2008, 13:00hrs) Fri Sep 19, 2008 1:10 pm | |
| It took me some time to understand how would our university outsource the information system functions since most of my reference about outsourcing is business related, where money and time is of the essence. Since the object to be in/outsource is an information system I think i would side with insourcing.
Why insourcing? well.. uhhmmm.. there are some reasons. One would be that having our IS insourced, we know better the issues concerning it. Therefore will have better control over its development and functions. If we outsource our IS my concern would be who would we send if the outsourcer needs human resource? our own professors? It would be a loss to the university.
The thing that could tempt to outsource is the benefit of shared knowledge and skills. Access to intellectual property and wider experience and knowledge would really enchance the skills of our faculty. Also having access to operational best practice that would be too difficult or time consuming to develop in-house.
In insourcing we could make a comitee or a team who will be incharge of developing and maintaining our IS, with addtional pay of course. There's and ethical issue that i've found that says; why pay people outside of the company when we can pay our own personnel that are capable of doing the same task? |
|  | | mariechelle alcoriza

Posts: 43 Join date: 2008-06-14 Age: 23 Location: davao city
 | Subject: insource or outsource Fri Sep 19, 2008 7:14 pm | |
| i'm late!!
but gladly this topic is a part of my report in MIS,
to set the record straight (coz the difference between the two were defined by my classmates already,hehe), i'd choose insource..
why? first, the cost is less. Since USEP is a government owned and the budget is not that big. next, why do we outsource if we have skilled students and faculty? why not use the hidden capabilities of our students and faculty (of course, this will really benefit the IC,hehe) since it's insource we are in control of the information that is being used by the System. lastly,whenever the system will encounter problems we can immediately fix it or call the technical staff or team assigned to develop and maintain the system.
that's it.. |
|  | | jade mijares

Posts: 28 Join date: 2008-06-11
 | Subject: Re: Assignment 9 (Due: before september 19,2008, 13:00hrs) Sat Sep 20, 2008 9:41 am | |
| My classmates already gave the definition of outsourcing and in-sourcing so i would no longer define the terms. Given the above problem it would be difficult to take a fixed stand not knowing anything about the problems involved or the entire situation for that matter. In-sourcing and outsourcing is not a moral issue where your stand could be held whatever the situation is. At a given time outsourcing could be more beneficial than in-sourcing and on another situation it could be the opposite.
Given the problem, taking a stand on whether to outsource or in-source the IS functions of the schools would first require a thorough study on the matter. Define the pros and cons of the the two situations and weigh the two against each other. The one that has more benefits should be the action that would be taken.
With my limited understanding of the situation i would say that it would be better to outsource the facilities. It would free the professors to teach students instead of trying to manage the systems inside the school. The professors would be given more time to spend with their students instead of trying to improve the IS. The first priority of professors should be to teach and not to create or to manage the IS facilities. It would also lessen the worries involved. All the University has to do is to find a party that offers the services needed for the school including the maintenance/check-ups of the equipment to be used and to allot the appropriate budget for it. Troubleshooting and problems that arise would be the problem of the provider and not of the school. Of course the school will be affected if problems will arise but the solution for the problems should be given by the provider and not by the school. |
|  | | Thomas Tangian

Posts: 203 Join date: 2008-06-12 Location: Davao
 | Subject: assignment Sat Sep 20, 2008 8:54 pm | |
| I think it will depend on which side does the universities will improve.. For we know that we are only limited to our resources so in that case through outsourcing we can have a good system and facilities in order for us to compete but it will also depend on the other criteria in this case such us the company that will outsource the school, is it reliable? or will the school benefit from it?.. For me outsourcing and insourcing is good, I think outsourcing will be more good to our school but not in this time for the faculty and students are not yet ready for this kind of change.. |
|  | | George Dan Gil Duran

Posts: 25 Join date: 2008-06-17 Age: 23 Location: Davao
 | Subject: Re: Assignment 9 (Due: before september 19,2008, 13:00hrs) Sat Sep 20, 2008 11:47 pm | |
| As we all know, out-sourcing is getting a third party outside the company or infrastructure while in-sourcing is making use of own personnel in a company with an expertise. If I’ll be the one who will going to present my evaluation about the said topic about in-sourcing and out-sourcing. And if I’ll be the one who will going to take the position of deciding what I’m supposed to use. I would suggest using in-sourcing because in my opinion, if my company contains personnel with great talent and expertise about making systems, programs, etc. why not make use of their abilities?! By doing this, I can help them improved their abilities as well as I can help my company’s systems being unique among the other and can hold confidentiality. Why I say so? Because if you use systems that are out-sourced, I can’t assure that it will hold confidentiality. It would be easy for other people especially the one who use the same systems that I use, to hack and crack my data. Because most of out-sourced programs have weaknesses that most people know even students and if I will going to use that oww that’s bad in my side. And aside that, using an in-source I can easily determine or debug and add some changes in the systems easily because the one who made it was in my company. By doing this it will took me less effort and saves time. Well when we talk about money, though I can say I can spend more money in in-sourcing than out-sourcing it doesn’t matter because what I ponder is making my data safe and secure. Well it depends also specially if you are close with your personnel you can talk prices…for convenience and for the good. However my opinion is just based, if and only if you have very honest and trustworthy personnel. Not only that, if they have talents and expertise in making systems. Why not try them it’s better to used your personnel it’s also a way to interact with them.  |
|  | | harleylovitos

Posts: 117 Join date: 2008-06-11
 | Subject: Re: Assignment 9 (Due: before september 19,2008, 13:00hrs) Fri Sep 26, 2008 10:19 pm | |
| GOOD DAY! For me I prefer in insource. Why?..Why we outsource if we have the talents to do the certain task. Like our Enrolment system, our system was being outsourced. The enrolment system a database program, we have an Database Administrator(DBA),students who take up database subject that can help our university and minimize the cost of the project. Right?..Like for example if you have a television in your house why do you need to go to your neighbor to watch tv. The television in your are will be useless. GOD BLESS SIR!!! MERRY CHRISTMAS  |
|  | | ymrebmomville

Posts: 33 Join date: 2008-06-13 Age: 22
 | Subject: mis assign 9 Fri Oct 10, 2008 9:35 pm | |
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Since outsourcing and insourcing were already defined by my classmates I will not include their definition anymore.
As for me, I would prefer insource. Because our school cannot provide such budget for the said project, its better to check our resources and allocate solutions that would suit our financial capabilities.
Insource, aside from being cheaper, is more secured than outsource. Though outsourcing can provide better competition that makes it a little cheaper, it would not outweigh the advantages given by insourcing.
Making use of our resources is better since we can communicate with the programmers easily if something went wrong in the system. As IT soon to be professionals, we know that the top priority of a system is security. Also, being concerned with the security doesn’t mean being careless with the quality.
Finally, the university has skilled faculty and students. I’m not bragging but it’s the reality that of all universities in Mindanao, our school offers high standards of learning when it comes to Information Technology. So why settle for the better if we can have the best? |
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